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Questions to Ask Mormons pt 4: Which Jesus do you follow?

MORMON PROPHET ADMITS HE BELIVES IN ANOTHER CHRIST

Mormon Prophet Admits He Believes in Another Christ – Not the Traditional  James K. Walker (Chart and notes by Timothy Oliver)
Paris, France – In a surprising admission during last month’s three nation European speaking trip, Mormon president Gordon B. Hinckley stated that the Christ he believes in is not the same Christ as the one followed by those outside the LDS Church.Hinckley quoted unnamed critics of the LDS Church who claim that Mormons do not believe in the traditional Christ and then he agreed with them.The LDS Church News reported: “In bearing testimony of Jesus Christ, President Hinckley spoke of those outside the Church who say Latter-day Saints ‘do not believe in the traditional Christ. No, I don’t. The traditional Christ of whom they speak is not the Christ of whom I speak. For the Christ of whom I speak has been revealed in this the Dispensation of the Fulness [sic] of Times’. He together with His Father, appeared to the boy Joseph Smith in the year 1820, and when Joseph left the grove that day, he knew more of the nature of God than all the learned ministers of the gospel of the ages.'” (LDS Church News Week ending June 20, 1998, p. 7). (June 20, 1998, http://www.desnews.com/cgi-bin/libstory_church?dn98&9806210091). Despite this major difference on a pivotal doctrine of the Christian faith, Hinckley maintains that he is a Christian. “Am I Christian?” Hinckley asked rhetorically, “Of course I am. I believe in Christ. I talk of Christ. I pray through Christ. I’m trying to follow Him and live His gospel in my life” (Ibid.).

In Mormonism, Jesus is a creation, the product of relations between god and his goddess wife who used to be people from another world (McConkie, Bruce, Mormon Doctrine, p. 192, 321, 516, 589). Jesus is the literal spirit brother of the devil and of you and I (McConkie, p. 192, 589). Also, in Mormon theology, God has a body of flesh and bones (Doctrine & Covenants 130:22) as does his wife and together they produce spirit offspring in heaven who inhabit human bodies on earth.

Very few, if any, of the ‘different’ Mormon doctrines are found in their Standard Works: the Bible, The Book of Mormon, Doctrine & Covenants, and The Pearl of Great Price. Rather, they are taught by Mormons of high standing: prophets, apostles, members of the 70 Quorum. McConkie, for example, was a member of the 70’s Quorum, a very high-ranking Mormon and wrote the book, Mormon Doctrine, from which much of the documentation for this is taken.

President Hinkley, the prophet and revelator of the Mormon church, has publicly declared that the Jesus of Mormonism and traditional Christianity are not the same.

Christians need to ask Mormons, “Which Jesus do you follow?”

The Bible warns of false teachers who promote “another Jesus whom we have not preached” (2 Corinthians 11:4). The Apostle Paul warned the Corinthians not to believe everyone who preached “Jesus.” The true Jesus was based on the tradition of apostolic preaching – the Jesus “we preached.” Paul compared the preaching another Christ outside of that tradition with the deception of the serpent in the Garden of Eden (2 Corinthians 11:4, Genesis 3 1:4-5). In the same context, Paul warned the Church to beware of “false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ” (2 Corinthians 11:13).

If you asked Gordon B. Hinckley, the last Prophet of the

Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints this is what he would tell you!

Unlike the traditional Christian view of Jesus based solely on the Bible, Hinckley’s Christ is based to a large extent on extra-biblical revelation. It is not surprising then to find significant differences.

Hinckley notes this important distinction: “For the Christ of whom I speak has been revealed in this, the Dispensation of the Fulness [sic] of Times. He, together with His Father, appeared to the boy Joseph Smith in the year 1820, and when Joseph left the grove that day, he knew more of the nature of God than all the learned ministers of the gospel of the ages” (LDS Church News).

The LDS are offended to hear someone say they are not Christians. After all, “JESUS CHRIST” is emphasized in the name of their church. The first Article of Faith reads, “We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.” But is this the Jesus of the Bible?

Who Is Jesus?
The identity of Jesus Christ for Christians is based on two key things. Revelation and History. These do however overlap a bit in the Bible which we believe to be inspired thus revelation and history, that being eyewitness testimony as well as the facts scientific evidence has brough us via archeology. Suffice it to say that the point of this blog entry is not to go over who Jesus is,.. you can do that, by reading the Gospels, as the New Testament has 27,000 copies in varying languages substantiating their authenticity and reliability. You will see who Jesus says he is and not who Joseph Smith says, or what the Book of Mormon or other Mormon works.

Wonder if the Bible is reliable? Check out Please Convince Me. COM

reliability of the New Testament Here! —http://www.pleaseconvinceme.com/index/pg79640 and

Has it been faithfuly handed down? http://www.pleaseconvinceme.com/index/The_New_Testament_Has_Been_Faithfully_Transmitted

Who is Jesus Christ of the LDS?

LDS Apostle Bruce McConkie taught that Christians have “a mythical Christ” (Mormon Doctrine, p.269). That means we must decide which faith has the real Christ because somebody clearly has a mythical Christ. Do these faiths have the same Jesus? No, if you read the LDS Ensign. It says Christian Churches worship a different Jesus (May 1977, p.26).

Let’s take a look at the difference between the Mormon Jesus and the one of Traditional Christianity:

The Mormon Jesus The Christian Jesus
  1. The literal son of god and his goddess wife begotten in  the pre-existence.
  2. The brother of all spirits born in heaven in the premortal  existence.
  3. Became God
  4. One of Potentially Billions of Gods
  5. One of 3 gods in the godhead.
  6. The Trinity is three separate gods.
  7. First one to receive a spirit body.
  8. Atoned for sin on the cross and in the
    garden of Gethsemane by sweating blood.
  9. Married with Children
  10. Salvation of the Ungoldly by Grace AFTER all that they can do.
  11. The Created Spirit Brother of Lucifer
  12. Born in Jerusalem (Alma 7:10)
  1. Not the literal son of god and his goddess wife.
  2. Not the brother of all spirits born in heaven in a  premortal existence.
  3. Eternally God
  4. God Alone
  5. Not one of 3 gods in the godhead.
  6. The Trinity is 3 persons in one God.
  7. Was always spirit from eternity.
  8. Atoned for sin on the cross alone.
  9. Not Married
  10. Salvation of the Ungodly through Grace
  11. The Creator of All things
  12. Born in Bethlehem (Micah 5:2, Matthew 2:1)

This brief comparison should help you see the difference between the two. Jesus cannot be both the literal son of god and his goddess wife and not the literal begotten son. He cannot be both one of 3 gods, and not one of 3 gods. They are different. In  fact, it would be a lot easier if the Mormons called him by a different name. For example, Bolok would be good. Bolok is one of  three gods, but Jesus is not. etc. That way, it would be a lot easier to tell them apart.

Mormonism definitely does not teach the same Jesus as Christianity.

Other Comments of a Different Jesus

Elder Bernard P. Brockbank, of the First Quorum of the Seventy, speaking from the Tabernacle in Salt Lake City during General Conference quotes a June 18, 1976 London Times article that states in part, “In fact, there is good reason for regarding them as a new religion rather than as another variety of Christianity.. the Christ followed by the Mormons is not the Christ followed by traditional Christianity.”

Elder Brockbank then adds a very frank admission: “It is true that many of the Christian churches worship a different Jesus Christ than is worshipped by the Mormons or The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. For example from the Church of England’s Articles of Religion, article one, I quote: ‘There is but one living God, everlasting, without body, parts, or passions..’ We cannot obtain salvation and eternal life by worshipping fake Christs. The belief that God has no body parts, and passions is not a doctrine of Jesus Christ or a doctrine of the holy scriptures but is a doctrine of men, and to worship such a God is in vain” (“The Living Christ,” Ensign, May, 1977, pp. 26-7).

Today one is more likely to hear Mormons say that they believe in Jesus “too” – but have some additional information. They may point out a few historical differences (such as Christ’s visit to America recorded in the Book of Mormon) but ignore big differences – the fundamental issue of Christ’s very nature and essential attributes.

Honest Mormons will admit this,… the Question is will they then admit that they are not Christians? If so who are they saved by? Are they saved at all? If they do not believe in the Jesus of the Bible, then they have some thinking to do. This is an opporturnity to love them and walk with them through this time of decision.  If they are a “Missionary” you can bet if they tell another Elder they will be mysteriously removed. The reason is that you have brought some truth into their life and they are thinking for themselves and that is not a good thing. The best you can do is pray for them. If it is a neighbor, take time to have them over, keep the relationship without pressure, share from the Bible and PRAY hard.

If you are a Mormon and you read all of this,.. I will ask you,.. WHICH Jesus do you follow? The Jesus or Mormonism is NOT the Jesus of Christianity. And since he is not,… what have you pur you faith and trust in?

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7 thoughts on “Questions to Ask Mormons pt 4: Which Jesus do you follow?

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  2. In case you did not know (this is for your benefit, not mine), “Mormon Doctrine” is not and has never been accepted as church doctrine. Same with “The Seer” by Orson Pratt, in case you run into that one.

  3. kealnt on said:

    Can you demonstrate that what I wrote was incorrect? I quoted YOU Church and leaders!

  4. kealnt on said:

    Did you hear what Hinckley even said?

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